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Post by system on May 27, 2006 15:16:20 GMT -5
That's actually a really good point. And if you notice the soundtrack for Cyclops and Jean is called Whirlpool of Love....Who knows.
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Post by sc12een17am3 on May 27, 2006 17:39:12 GMT -5
cyclops "death" its pretty much open to interruptation... cause we never get a straight answer what happened to him. we just assumed she killed him cause thats what we are lead to believe. Jean doesnt exactly remembers and we are not shown what happened. we/she just know that Phoenix did something to him. what that something is, like i said is open to interruptation.
if the writers, [if there is x4] wanted to keep cyclops alive, they can easily write that in. saying something like Jean broke through Phoenix and added a cocoon around him also and didnt demolecularized him
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Post by fbvn6377 on May 27, 2006 17:42:07 GMT -5
I don't know if it's a rumour or not but after the end credits, there is a bonus scene , or rather 3 or 4 different scenes depending on where you go and see the movie. They all deal about the deceased characters end let's say they rearrange what we previously saw in the movie. One scene is said to be set in Alkali woods where we suddenly see the image turning all red, as an obvious reference to Scott power. So maybe it's not the end for jean's lover....
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Post by giantkillerant on May 27, 2006 17:50:19 GMT -5
i am pretty sure that cyke is not dead, we didnt see him die and i think that if he is dead he will be resurected if they do another one
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Post by coco on May 27, 2006 18:30:27 GMT -5
Cyclops live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we need him in X4 however we can see his optic blast at the end after credit
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Post by 0blivion on May 27, 2006 19:24:49 GMT -5
Thats unknown..this could of happned Cyclops:OMFG THE BLINDING LIGHT! Phoenix:im here but i dunt know how Cyclops and Phoenix kiss and such Cyclops:OMFG U CRAZY WOMAN AHHHHH!! *blast!* Phoenix:o no you didn't just insult me!! TIME OUT FOR U PUNK! *send him into the water* *faint* Cyclops:OMGWTF! *falls under but phoenix's powers keep him cacooned...so he can think about his mistakes... ...<.<...>.>...
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Post by avatar on May 27, 2006 19:29:53 GMT -5
Whats the deal I mean, he is pretty much dead, Jean did him the same thing that she did to the professor, he is dead,m is a pity, but is the true
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Post by pho3nixflame69 on May 27, 2006 20:07:14 GMT -5
Yeah but if you saw the end credits Professor X's mind is in the guys ody we see in the video of Moira early in the movie! So he's alive in another's body! We definately didn't see any sign of Cyclops dead or alive!!!!!
And you know what! Fact of the matter is, no matter who dies in the comic world, they always come back! It's like a cartoon soap opera! We should stop crying & realize when/if X4 comes we will definately see Cyclops again, Jean in her normal nice form, Professor in the right body, Magneto, Mystique & Rogue mutants again! And we will all sleep better at night!
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Post by whec on May 27, 2006 21:34:57 GMT -5
I was really ticked off about how they treated Cyclops in the latest movie and even more upset that they apparently killed him off (though I don't believe he is really dead). However, more than any of that I am just really disappointed in how they have treated the character. They have made him out to be a whiny little brat. He is the backbone of the team, he is the epitome of a true leader. He deserves better than what he has gotten in the movies.
I think it all stems from the casting. They didn't get a big start to play cyclops. From the start he was a bad match with Jean in the movies. He seemed much younger. They should have gotten a better, older and more well known actor to play Cyclops.
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Post by Urania on May 27, 2006 21:55:47 GMT -5
But I always think that Marsden is exactly the image of Cyclops, and he indeed is younger than Jean in the orginally setting........
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Post by shadowdark on May 28, 2006 4:51:22 GMT -5
About these four rumoured after credits scene. Theres: Charles in lab, Scott in Lake, Jeans grave moving and Pyro coming home.
Now, has anyone actually seen one of them other than the Professor X one. Because over here in the UK and most of the US it was Xavier one. Do we know that the other 3 arent just rumours?
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Post by sirius14sho on May 28, 2006 5:47:57 GMT -5
Hes dead, thats why Jean asks Logan to kill her when he asked where scott is, not to mention when the Prof. flat out says it.
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Post by shadowdark on May 28, 2006 5:50:37 GMT -5
I believe he is dead too however it would be easy for them to bring him back. They never really explained how Jean was actually able to come back to life, only that she has the other personality.
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Post by Jeannie on May 28, 2006 5:54:08 GMT -5
I THINK ARE BOTH ALIVE I BELIEVE THAT : JEAN PROTECT HIM IN SOMETHING LIKE A COCOUN OF TELEPATHY AND SHE WILL RISE ON X4 FOR SAVE HIM AND SHOW HIM WHAT HAPPEND ... I THINK IS LOGICAL IF YOU THINK THE SCENES AFTER THE CREDITS....
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Post by sirius14sho on May 28, 2006 6:25:33 GMT -5
I believe he is dead too however it would be easy for them to bring him back. They never really explained how Jean was actually able to come back to life, only that she has the other personality. Uh, I think the Prof. did, he said something along the lines of she must have made a telepathic cacoon to protect herself against the water.
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Post by SweetPhoenix on May 28, 2006 7:16:58 GMT -5
I'm not sure about it. Maybe he still alive? after credits,it has the bonus scene. And Prof.X still alive? B'cuz he's in lab. I juz saw only that. no about Pyro,Jean and cyclops
Personally,I want him back! If there's no Cyclops,it won't be the real X-men. wishing him to save Cyclops >[]<
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Post by wizardly on May 28, 2006 9:33:40 GMT -5
May be when Professor know that Scott is in danger he try to save him and did something to Phoenix
to let her think that Scott was dead.
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Post by Forecast on May 28, 2006 9:41:34 GMT -5
i dont think Jean actually killed anyone. i think she just poofed them to a different dimension or something. On x-men legends somebody was kidnapped to some psychic island where sinister was.th only way Charles could communicate was thru his firend(forgot her name). i think they are all goin to be there in X4 thus having Sinister as the main villain.
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Post by bladedbishop on May 28, 2006 11:09:27 GMT -5
I agree they never really showed cyclops true self his the fearless leader the heart of the x men team and proff x is the heart of all the xmen but without cyclops in any x men movie like the possible future of xmen then the xmen movies are doom but im wishing that cyclops was transported somewhere else possibly where havoc is beacuse jean transported him before phenoix kill him
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Post by takmar on May 28, 2006 21:47:47 GMT -5
One thing that you can never say for sure is if someone is dead in fiction. I mean even if the way they come back is stupid and does not make sense, we continue on, and BAM they are back regardless.
Cyclops is a VERY important part to the X-men movies, and this is proved also by the fact that he has been a part of the comics for over 30 years.
I think that it is obvious that Jean still had a certain amount of control between herself and Pheonix, if she had not, she would have been killing and destroying everything, not going back and forth and restraining herself.
Even if she had a small amount of control over her darker side, I would think that the one person she could protect from the Pheonix would be Scott.
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