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Post by MistyStormKnight on Apr 22, 2006 16:16:28 GMT -5
Can I too. I want to the crowd!! lol we dun't discrimminate, just put it in yer sig p.s. storm is an all-around better leader, for her compassion, ability to direct, mauveur, think logically and fast along with having the respect of all her fellow x men.
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Post by shadowdark on Apr 23, 2006 7:36:53 GMT -5
Storm is my 2nd fave. Actually just about tieing first with kitty. Then jean, then Sage, then Iceman bringing up the rear.
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Post by marvelboy on Apr 26, 2006 5:45:45 GMT -5
in the movies... Cyclops is a way better leader because the first film was better because he led it and made it interesting...and in the second film, only the survivors became the leaders... and it was really uninteresting because everyone was a leader...but maybe in the third film Storm and Wolverine may turn out to be the best leaders...
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Post by wolfgang8565 on Apr 27, 2006 12:53:35 GMT -5
^ ? Storm is a better leader no matter what..
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Post by MistyStormKnight on Apr 27, 2006 19:53:17 GMT -5
lol eloquently put wolvie
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Post by mike059jig on May 2, 2006 11:57:39 GMT -5
Cyclops is the x-men greatest leader...storm will always be 2nd best to cyclops...
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Post by wolfgang8565 on May 2, 2006 12:30:13 GMT -5
really? care to elaborate on that "fact?"
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Post by mike059jig on May 2, 2006 13:29:04 GMT -5
really? care to elaborate on that "fact?" yes when storm was introducing bishop around to the x-men he mention. "Bishop says that he is feeling high strung, that its not every day a person of his upbringing gets to meet the X-Men’s greatest leader Cyclops"" storm then says "all of his history books might not be so accurate and Xavier says he is about to discern for himself fact from fiction"...x-men 2nd series # 8...new x-men even wolverine said he'll follow him down to hell....storm in the movies if that what u mean..since cyke's a throwaway character..
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Post by wolfgang8565 on May 2, 2006 14:07:06 GMT -5
OK, so some people would follow him down to hell because of his leadership skills but they werent comparing him to Storm...Granted Storm is not the leader type and she was even freaked out when cyclops took a cebatical but they were all happy that Prof X chose Storm. Even if she wasnt born to be a leader she could definitely lead better than Cyke...
This is the example ive been using...if it came to leading the morlocks for example. Do you think they would listen to cyclops? They would probably mock him and ignore him...do you think they wouldnt respect Ororo?
Cyke is a good leader but his pride and ignorance can get on a lot of peoples nerves...Storm would be the best she would give great advice and lead them to victory even if it meant death...which by the way she would be willing to die for her team without thinking twice...Cyke would at least think twice...
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Post by wolfielover06 on May 2, 2006 14:20:05 GMT -5
im not kissing @$$ or anything but i agree with wolfgang8565 i think storm is a way better leader then ol one eye
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Post by mike059jig on May 2, 2006 14:34:49 GMT -5
I can see your a storm fan as I am a cyclops fan..I don't think she can ever lead better than cyclops IMO..his pride and ignorance did get on people nerves but why are they do they all listen to him becuase his judgement is right..Even iceman says "cyclops has got to tell how he gets people to listen to him" they were happy storm was selected leader becuase no else had the ballz to lead them and storm knows what is it to kinda lead since she was a goddess before..cyclops been a good leader is an understatement..cyclops wasnt born a leader either is was a burden given to him.....so cyclops leading in team against apoc,darkpheonix, magneto isn't leading his team to death??tell where storm would die for her team withour thinking twice..Cyclops would think twice..?? yeah right did he think twice when he jumped into apocalypse and merged with him..Cyclops is a great leader but what you're talkin about is that he lacks social skills which is true..because of his metaphorical persona..storm has complete control over her powers..cyclops doesn't..he alienated himself cause of this and put alot of work into been a leader cause he couldnt control his power and have a normal life...cyclops been a leader all his life and seen his greatest love turn on him and die in his eyes..tormented over so many years but he still is a great leader..I hold nothing against storm been a leader..she a leader that even cyclops know it
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Post by lightninggoddess on May 2, 2006 14:59:33 GMT -5
i agree they both are good leaders cyclops to me seem to the type with the philosophy " im right your wrong deal with it" while storm would listen to the team's opinions and make a decision that everyone agreed on i think thats what sets them apart.
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Post by wolfgang8565 on May 2, 2006 17:48:28 GMT -5
Exactly! Well said lightninggoddess! Im not saying Cykes isnt a good leader obviously hes been a great leader so far but I also think of it was who would I want my leader to be?
You cant honestly say that you would rather be lead by someone who puts feelings and emotions aside and just wants to get the job done PERIOD...Your ideas dont really matter and even if they did you wont get credit for that idea. I would much rather be lead by a strong, powerful, wise woman whos personality cannot clash with you and I can just imagine her leading a team even til the end and even if she was tired beyond belief and hurt she would NEVER give up or show an ounce of weakness and loos of hope....
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Post by mike059jig on May 2, 2006 18:49:26 GMT -5
You're clearly changin the subject to who "you" would follow.... ;D..I can't say anything bout that..
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Post by wolfgang8565 on May 2, 2006 23:11:21 GMT -5
Uhhh...do you not follow a leader? obviously if its my opinion then I can judge who I particularly find more appealing as a leader...Ok lets play this game your way.... IF I was a comic book character I would still follow Storm...for the same reasons as I stated above...
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Post by mike059jig on May 2, 2006 23:55:48 GMT -5
Like i said I can't say anything bout that..thats your personal opinion...
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Post by wolfgang8565 on May 3, 2006 9:01:57 GMT -5
right and doesnt the question on this thread ask for our own personal opinion? so the fact that you think Cyke is YOUR personal preference then thats YOUR opinion right? so whats this whole opinion deal with you? obviously thats what we are talking about... Storm rules !!
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Post by mike059jig on May 3, 2006 10:14:58 GMT -5
right and doesnt the question on this thread ask for our own personal opinion? so the fact that you think Cyke is YOUR personal preference then thats YOUR opinion right? so whats this whole opinion deal with you? obviously thats what we are talking about... Storm rules !! NO the this thread does not ask personnal Opinion as far as im concerned is says whos the better leader for the x-men storm or cyclops...I don't see anywhere where it says "in your opinion who is the better leader"..you're just base it on who "You" would follow..im not base my opinion on who "I" would follow..thats out of context...it plainly states who is the better leader...its is my opinion but based from the comics..nothing personal..i don't use "You" and "I" in my opinion..Like said since you're basing it in on your personal opinion i can't say anything about it..if you show comics that show storms as an x-men leader and then i'll show comics of cyclops..other than that its your personal opinion....
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Post by angel18 on May 3, 2006 10:31:36 GMT -5
Cyclops has always been the leader with Storm second in command, so clearly both of them have great leadership skills.
But I still say Cyclops is the best leader for the X-Men, he was the first X-Man and has been there the longest. By all rights, he should be the captain.
Proffesor X made him leader for a reason, if he has faith in him, so do I.
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Post by wolfgang8565 on May 3, 2006 11:45:12 GMT -5
right and doesnt the question on this thread ask for our own personal opinion? so the fact that you think Cyke is YOUR personal preference then thats YOUR opinion right? so whats this whole opinion deal with you? obviously thats what we are talking about... Storm rules !! NO the this thread does not ask personnal Opinion as far as im concerned is says whos the better leader for the x-men storm or cyclops...I don't see anywhere where it says "in your opinion who is the better leader"..you're just base it on who "You" would follow..im not base my opinion on who "I" would follow..thats out of context...it plainly states who is the better leader...its is my opinion but based from the comics..nothing personal..i don't use "You" and "I" in my opinion..Like said since you're basing it in on your personal opinion i can't say anything about it..if you show comics that show storms as an x-men leader and then i'll show comics of cyclops..other than that its your personal opinion.... This is all YOUR opinion...whether it states it or not, Opinion is a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty so there has never been a situation where Storm and Cykes leaderships were both pitted against each other that would give us cold hard PROOF to support this thread therefore this thread can only be answered by looking at their personalities which is where Ive stated based on her personality and her caring/non stubborness she is a better leader....
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