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Post by takmar on May 27, 2006 10:36:59 GMT -5
I ask this, because from seeing the movie only one time, I am relying on memory alone, but we never actually SEE Cyclops vaporize. Of course everyone feels that he is dead, but could Jean's love for Scott prevent her from killing him?
Also on Jean, I know from the comic books, that the Jean that came back from under water turned out to be a copy of the real Jean made by the pheonix force (even though the movie states the pheonix force was not a cosmic entity, but Jean's darker personality). Still everyone thought Jean was dead, then she comes back as the Pheonix, and is killed, and then they later discover she was at the bottom of the lake all along.
Anyway, we know from watching the movie, that they could bring back Xavier, and if they follow the comics with Jean, the real Jean may be at the bottom of the lake in a state of suspended animation. And perhaps Cyclops was placed with her at the bottom instead of being vaporized.
I guess I am trying to justify X-Men 4, which I strongly feel that they will make, due to the money that X-3 will bring in. After all, it is all about money.
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Post by cerebrox on May 27, 2006 10:42:45 GMT -5
I really dont know as long as they make an X-Men 4, and I am praying cyclops comes back.
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Post by RAGE on May 27, 2006 11:19:54 GMT -5
I really could care less. He almost offered nothin to the movie. Sorry to put down the cyclops fans, but I am voicing my opinion.
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Post by angel18 on May 27, 2006 12:02:20 GMT -5
I ask this, because from seeing the movie only one time, I am relying on memory alone, but we never actually SEE Cyclops vaporize. Of course everyone feels that he is dead, but could Jean's love for Scott prevent her from killing him? Also on Jean, I know from the comic books, that the Jean that came back from under water turned out to be a copy of the real Jean made by the pheonix force (even though the movie states the pheonix force was not a cosmic entity, but Jean's darker personality). Still everyone thought Jean was dead, then she comes back as the Pheonix, and is killed, and then they later discover she was at the bottom of the lake all along. Anyway, we know from watching the movie, that they could bring back Xavier, and if they follow the comics with Jean, the real Jean may be at the bottom of the lake in a state of suspended animation. And perhaps Cyclops was placed with her at the bottom instead of being vaporized. I guess I am trying to justify X-Men 4, which I strongly feel that they will make, due to the money that X-3 will bring in. After all, it is all about money. Very good points, I agree with you a lot. I think Cyclops was so underused, Cyke deserves better than that. And like you said, we never saw Cyclops actually die, there was no body, so maybe he is still alive. When X4 comes out I know he will come back, he has to.
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Post by DaRk PhOeNiX on May 27, 2006 12:06:44 GMT -5
so as jean!
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Post by pho3nixflame69 on May 27, 2006 12:14:44 GMT -5
I really don't think so, here's my reasons!
*We never really see Cyclops die/vaporize! He could of just got pushed back into the woods! Storm & Wolverine never really looked for him throuh out Alkali Lake. *His glasses are still floating at Alkali Lake until Jean breaks them in the infirmary. *Jean did the same thing to Professor Xavier as she did Cyclops, and Professor Xavier is still alive!
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Post by macapplecs on May 27, 2006 12:39:48 GMT -5
but cyclops doesn't have Prof. X telepathic powers how can Scott survive
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Post by pho3nixflame69 on May 27, 2006 13:02:51 GMT -5
Maybe Jean didn't use her full Phoenix Force on Cyclops just knocking him back into the woods? There have been rumors that are said to be 3 different more secret scenes like Professor Xavier's, one of Jean Grey/Phoenix, one of Mystique & one of Cyclops!
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Post by shadowdark on May 27, 2006 13:30:16 GMT -5
Maybe when Jean is resurected, she will be the good jean, and she will use her powers (if they say she can do ANYTHING in the movies) to bring him back. Who says the phoenic force cant bring back someone else.
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Post by oldfriend on May 27, 2006 13:34:11 GMT -5
I suppose he could come back in the future but I hate to say it, for now he's dead and i really don't see any other way around it.
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Post by shadowdark on May 27, 2006 14:00:58 GMT -5
LOL well this IS a comic book movie franchise and since when has a much-loved character stayed dead for long (and please noone give me illyana and gwen stacy cos i know)
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Post by Downhere on May 27, 2006 14:06:34 GMT -5
I suppose he could come back in the future but I hate to say it, for now he's dead and i really don't see any other way around it. Unfortunately I have to agree...although...someone in the user reviews section (screen name Tommy I believe) did make for an interesting way for Cyke to come back.
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Post by Tommy on May 27, 2006 14:16:54 GMT -5
Unfortunately I have to agree...although...someone in the user reviews section (screen name Tommy I believe) did make for an interesting way for Cyke to come back. Thanks. I'll repost it here.
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Post by shadowdark on May 27, 2006 14:20:42 GMT -5
I was thinking that. If she kiled Scott, what the hell was she doing on the floor?
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Post by Lust on May 27, 2006 14:23:01 GMT -5
i now right he could of blow her away or she could of lost control and then flew back and hit her head
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Post by shadowdark on May 27, 2006 14:24:29 GMT -5
LOLH maybe she hit her head on one of her floating rocks. That wouldve been hilarious.
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Post by pho3nixflame69 on May 27, 2006 14:57:46 GMT -5
Yes Shadow~Dark the Phoenix Force can resurrect! As in the comics & X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse, so far Jean has died 12 or more times in the comics! And Jean is known for dying & the Phoenix! So if X4 does come around then Cyclops & Jean along with Professor should be alive! And btw I think they should make X-Men movies debut a little shorter then every 3 years, these actors aren't gonna stay young forever! Famke & Halle are already 40 & Patrick & Ian are in their mid 60's!
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Post by Downhere on May 27, 2006 15:02:19 GMT -5
pho3nixflame69 - Well...they can always use the technology they used to make Patrick and Ian look younger for everyone else too so we can keep the continuity. lol.
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Post by Tommy on May 27, 2006 15:06:52 GMT -5
My brother believes they left it so open and uncertain with him to allow for the next film, granted Singer doesn't steal Jimmy away for another flick at the same time, but I think if they really wanted to do that they could have done something more in this film to show he's alive. Hell the rumored alternate end scene with the optic blast coming out of the water would have done that job, but I think the notion of that is just fan wank until I see some proof.
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Post by shadowdark on May 27, 2006 15:11:05 GMT -5
Why would there be a secret ending that is different? What would be the point?
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