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Post by sc12een17am3 on May 28, 2006 13:16:07 GMT -5
yeah i notice that if u rewatch the movie, or ne other movie, it gets better...
so to those who say it complete sucks... clear ur mind and rewatch it... i prob would think differently afterwards. prob cause u would catch more things u might of missed
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Post by DarkPhoenixKid on May 28, 2006 13:30:48 GMT -5
uhmm,anyone notice the BIGGEST mistake in the movie,all cure guns were made plastic especially for the convoy,but then magneto is able to movve it to him,slide it across his desk,and lift it up to Jean,HAS ANYONE NOTICED
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Post by sc12een17am3 on May 28, 2006 13:40:34 GMT -5
i thought the only time they were plastic was when the military decied to go in war with Magneto near the end... cause they learned from the convoy acciedent they have to change the design... iono though i have to re watch the movie, im alerady forgetting some details lol
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Post by Goldenflame on May 28, 2006 13:56:55 GMT -5
uhmm,anyone notice the BIGGEST mistake in the movie,all cure guns were made plastic especially for the convoy,but then magneto is able to movve it to him,slide it across his desk,and lift it up to Jean,HAS ANYONE NOTICED That gun was from the convoy. It was only when the President decided to give Magneto his war that they made all the guns plastic. But the needles in the gun still have metal on them. So even though Magneto couldn't control the guns, he still should have felt the presence of the metal in the needles.
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Post by DarkPhoenixKid on May 28, 2006 13:58:03 GMT -5
o0o,they've learned!
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Post by skinnyscale on May 28, 2006 14:09:06 GMT -5
I jus came back form watching it again and i noticed after magneto drops the bridge it got dark fast as Hell. Whats up wit dat.
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Post by DarkPhoenixKid on May 28, 2006 14:40:23 GMT -5
when he lands after flying you see the dark clouds taking over the sky if you look in front of him. IT looked like sunset to me when the bridge was being moved and it DOES happen that fast but most people dont take the time ou to really look so just seeing it for once may mak e some wonder,but that's how it goes.
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Post by xbboyy on May 28, 2006 15:49:36 GMT -5
X-MEN 3 MADE 107 MILLION OPENING WEEKEND!!! I THINK THAT IS MORE THAN DA VINCI CODE!
ITS AMAZING!
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Post by Raven on May 28, 2006 18:22:00 GMT -5
Wow, I must say, all of your reviews are great on here guys! Thanks for sharing them with us! ;D Now on to my review: Where to begin…? X-Men: The Last Stand has a simple plot and runs headlong towards it from the moment the X-Men step out of the Danger Room. The movie almost seemed to struggle with deciding whether to focus on the Phoenix saga, the cure to mutation plot or to be filled with special effects. Everything moves too quickly and internal dramas are glossed over for the sake of some very slick special effects. Fortunately, the plot has built a vast parallel universe around a group of morally uncertain, emotionally scarred women and men. Unsurprisingly, the cure triggers a sociological showdown between Xavier and Magneto, who vows to obliterate both the remedy and its adherents, human and mutant alike-the final battle was amazing! The character’s powers were portrayed remarkably. Hank McCoy/Beast looked and fought remarkably! Angel had amazing wings and looked fabulous! The action was good and Magneto was his still witty self. But those include only a few, out of many, aspects that are great. Some really cool moments: starting the movie with Professor X and Magneto visiting Jean for the first time; Ice-man being completely iced up; the Fastball special; The Dark Phoenix manifesting, Beast, Sentinels, and the Danger Room. Cyclops’s death was saddening, and it happened quicker than I had imagined. It was heartbreaking to see Xavier go as well. But what hurt the most, was Rogue’s decision to take the cure. I really thought she was going to reconsider, but ultimately, she did not. In the end, however, it made me a bit angry because the cure seemed to be temporary-as shown in the last scene with Magneto. I just kept thinking to myself…what was the point in having her take the cure…? I know a lot of X-fans are mad about what characters died and/or the disappointment of character development, and I understand why people went on the offensive. Nobody likes to see change in the things they love. I must say, Mystique and the cure came too soon-it was a good ending to a great character…Even though I knew what was going to happen to her, I was still shocked! I guess it’s because I took everything with a huge grain of salt…DH My favorite part(s) in the film were of Jean Grey/Phoenix. The special effects were astonishing! She completely blew me away in that not-so-pleasant form! Janssen did an amazing portrayal of Jean and I was surprised at how well she acted. My biggest complaint is the run time: It was very much nothing as it should be in the comics and I felt they put too much into a small period of 1 hour and 43 minutes. At a comparatively slender 104 minutes, the movie manages to cram in even more, without producing outrage at the short shrift some characters will get. Frankly, I wanted more. Though the experience lasts just over an hour and a half, X3 is filled with surprising moments. Some will anger you, but it's unlikely you will see all of them coming-and I admit, I was a bit shocked! It's impossible to deny that this film, with either a better script or a different director, could have had a much greater depth. It needed an extra 20 minutes of story, but what is here is very entertaining. The film got more right than it did wrong but grew overwrought and overstuffed. The ending seems to leave things open for a fourth installment. Perhaps studios should think twice before calling a movie The Last Stand until they decide with certainty that it is indeed the final entry. Whether it's actually the last installment, though, is the newest debate. The film offers a few scenes that suggest the franchise could live on — including a surprise scene at the end of the movie's credits. It was not a disappointing film at all! I’ve been waiting 3 years 5 months and 26 days to see this movie, and it was totally worth the wait! Overall, I absolutely loved this film and I can’t wait to see it again! ;D Whew! I think I’ve finally gotten out all that I want to say.
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Post by wolfgang8565 on May 28, 2006 23:07:01 GMT -5
wow Raven you are right on with your whole review...it is exactly how i feel
except the thing about Rogue, yes the cure was temporary but they did develope it fast so maybe its not permanent because there wasnt enough time to perfect it you know?
and i think you have to remember that this film is big on metaphors and Rogue is the one that desires to be able to touch the most and it makes the movie very dramatic to have her go and stand in line just to CHANGE WHO SHE IS which was the point of her decision....
i thought id rather have her go and try to change then be another extra in a fight scene...it makes the world of marvel more believable because you can relate in a way..
plus she did go in TAS in the 90s to muir island to take the cure for the same reason so to have her do that was completely understandable
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Post by xmenfan246 on May 29, 2006 5:49:46 GMT -5
I understand why Rogue wanted the cure, and it went well with the story. REMEMBER it's temporary. Also remember that we can't confirm that Cyclops actually died...So here's hopes for X4!!! I want Jubilee and Siryn to have bigger roles in the next film!! PLEASE.
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Post by *FroZen~AL* on May 29, 2006 7:09:15 GMT -5
Jubilee and Siryn have no stand or powerful roles in X-MEN franchise, they are alright as cameos, i guess alot of ppl greww up with Jubilee becos of her position in the cartton series in the 90s, but Jubilee is the comics wasnt significant at all.... I felt the only Asian girl they need to play up on is Psylocke but unfortunately killed off before we say psi-blades?
Siryn is the daughter of Sean Cassidy who is Banshee - she is supposed to be Scottish... and she did get a moment in X3, the part of the Prof X's funeral when she was sobbing, the redhead, freckled girl, that's Siryn.... Jubilee is only shown once at Prof X's class... and OMG, what horrible outfit she wears at the class.... she looks so old sitting next to Kitty who supposed to be older than Jubilee...
I prefer Jubilee's funky outfit in X2, the one with green jacket, big earrings, funky ponytail and striped blo use and cargo pants... that's hot - Jubilee is suppose to be a fashionista, not a sad bohemian dresser like we see of her in X3, anyone agrees?
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Post by Cycolossus on May 29, 2006 15:43:18 GMT -5
Cycolossus: I've just read your review. Every single word you said was spot on and I totally agreed with. Apart from maybe a few points about the Brotherhood, and Jugg's humor. The immatureness doesn't really do it for me. I'm now gonna say a few things, that will show how little I know about the X-men. When was Bishop in it? I never even noticed him. And Psylocke's powers was the shadow-port? I didn't know she could do that. I just thought it was bad characterization in the film, and she was doing a phase thing like Kitty. Hey WandaX, Bishop appeared in the funeral scene. He was the African American man with long dredlocks and a faint "M" over his eye. He is right behind Bobby- you can't miss him. Regarding Psylocke, yes. In the mid-90's X-Men series, Psylocke gained the power of 'shadow-porting' through the Crimson Dawn. Similar to Nightcrawler's ability, she can hide in shadows and travel at very high speeds through them, in addition to her psi-blades (which I have a very strong feeling will appear in a deleted scene on the DVD). Hope I helped.
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Post by *FroZen~AL* on May 29, 2006 16:09:01 GMT -5
Great observation, i would never had noticed Bishop was behind Bobby, gosh i have to see the movie again to take notice... but i notice the Stepford Cuckoos though that's cool!
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Post by windsurfer8290 on May 29, 2006 20:04:55 GMT -5
i never noticed the Stepford Cuckoos, where were they? and i did see Bishop
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Post by justownin on May 29, 2006 23:08:18 GMT -5
#1 reason to see this movie: THE JUGGERNAUT SAID IT! HE ******* SAID IT!!! I JUST ASSUMED THAT WEREN'T GOING TO DO IT!!! BUT THEY DID IT!!!
Movie Tier List
Broken 0: The Phoenix aka Da Broken ***** ( I just started calling her da broken ***** mid point through the movie when she ******* decentigrate Prof X with the upmost of ease)
Top Tier 1.)Charles (every since the juggernaut ***** flash everybody calls him Charles instead of prof X. not only in words, but in forums too) 2.) Magneto (Nobody can say this man don't know how to control his ******* powers! He does the craziest **** in all 3 movies. If it's not him pulling off all the pins of the grenades of the soldiers or HIS WHOLE DAMN CLIQUE ROLLING UP ON A FLYIN BRIDGE SWOLE AS HELL magneto be on some G ****) 3.)Juggernaut - (They made him a mutant and unrelated to charles in thos movie) 4.) Collesseus 5.) Wolverine 6.) Storm
Low Tier Porcupine Mutant - He had to hug you to kill you. Shits lamer than Elliot. I'm not gonna do mid tier and all that ****, but i know this guy is low. Elliot low.
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In any case let us notice the reoccurring theme in all three movies. In the first movie Magneto tried to turn all humans into mutants but failed. In the second movie humans tried to kill all mutants, and then mutants tried to kill all humans. Then finally in the third movie humans tried to turn all mutants into human. Each time they tried to solve the problem by making one race the other or getting rid of a complete and other side. But like the movies showed that is not the answer. Each and every time they tried to the opposite end of an extreme. The extreme of all should be humans, the extreme that all should be mutants. Some answers aren't always completely white, or completely black. The humans and the mutants should live together peacefully (like Charles wants).
Because consider this. Just like how we are reaching critical mass in population unlike anytime before and are estimated to have a 9.5 billion population by the time of 2050. Their will be a time that in a 100 or 150 years that every person on that dimensions planet will be a mutant. if they are truly the next human evolution like they are then more and more children will be born mutant until everybody on the planet is mutant. But those unblessed with powers should not try to stop or fight against the intelligent design of this situation. They should live in harmony until that day occurs.
But sadly their will be constant drama so beings such as the x-men must continue to fight against opposing viewpoints and discrimination. Just like the time period where blacks were extremely discriminated against which gave rise to such leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King and Malcolm X the X-men live in such a world. But their are differences. For one that time period will last a lot longer. Instead of them fighting and proving that they are just as good they are obviously superior and they fight against racism brought upon by fear. The major difference being that their will always be different races thus racism will exist for the ignorant but sooner or later in that world everyone will become a mutant and their plight shall in.
a new concepts that mutants will have to face is the concepts that govern individuality. individuality used to be shown simply through personality, through actions, threw looks. But now a new plateu of individuality has arrived to defrenciate. Ones power. Once the issue of humans vs. mutants is over and we realize that we are the same race 100 years from now then a new trouble will arise.
A society could of evolved humans, now accepting powers as the norm could begin judging society by those powers. Those who have strong powers are respected and feared and those with weak ones are laughed at and shunned. Those unlucky who are burn human will be shunned and ridiculed. Be victims of racism. For unlike when the blacks were prosecuted about being the inferior race the children of the future would be right. A human child would be inferior.
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notice how magneto talked of looking out for only mutant kind and crushing all humans. But he lacked compassion for even his mutant kind. Although his mutant brothers he fought on his side for an ideal was fighting he called them pawns and cared not about their fate. Watching mercilessly as they die
and look at how he treated Mystique. Mystique was so dedicated to the cause that she without thought risked her life and lost her powers for magneto. although she was then not a mutant and no longer can go with you is acceptable. But to turn your back on her and to not show her the gratitude that she deserves for risking her life and losing her powers for the ideal and for you is a despicable and unhonorable trait regardless of if it is a human or a mutant to a human or mutant. Magneto's vision at first was flawed. Even still he lacked the compassion and love towards all his kind that a great leader should possess. His logic that mutants was that mutants were the superior race, thus they should rule the earth. Although he cared about his mutant brothern. His justification for his coldness was that their must be sacrafices for the cause.
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Post by roguebeautiful on May 30, 2006 4:47:00 GMT -5
Wahhhey!! I went to see the film last night, and I just have to say it was brilliant! I have been waiting 3 years to see it, and thankfully it lived up to my expectations. Although I couldn't hold out and not look at all of the clips, I thought the film drew them all together really well. I loved Iceman and Pyro's 'fight', even though it was only about ten seconds long, and especially Bobby icing up. The young angel and young Jean scenes were good, and created a good backgroud for the film. Only a few complaints, first, as many people have said, the lack of character development. Examples which I though should have been included much more are Rogue and Angel. Rogue is such a cool person, and I think the director must not like her or something because she was barely in it. Anna Paquin did amazingly in the few scenes she was actually given, and I cried so much at the bit where Rogue comes back and talks to Bobby. But why, oh why, would you make her take the cure? Especially if the cure is not permanent, then what was the point. I know it was a metaphor and it was ok, but really, it wasn't developed enough to give it justice. I also was pleasantly surprised that I didn't find Kitty Pryde annyoing. I hate the fact that they were making a romance between her and Bobby, but it didn't happen that much so it was ok. I loved the Juggernaut bit with her! Overall the movie was a big success, and my one wish in life is that they make a fourth. Although, there can't be much doubt in that, seeing the enormous amount made in the first weekend, putting XMen at number five ever, must be an incentive to make another!!!!
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Post by waltham on May 30, 2006 8:04:31 GMT -5
Hi Guys
Gonna get my ten pence in and say I am so disappointed in this film. I truley wanted it to be exceptionally like one and two were BUT whilst it is good, its just not good enough as far as i am concerned. I just think it was mis-cast and the characters were wrongly used. They could have introduced better mutants for the smaller roles as opposed to making up or using random characters for the smaller roles. The acting in places was not the best (for this mainly see Vinnie Jones). BUT I think the director is the main thing wrong, and here is why. Possibly not knowing his audiance:
- just tried to be too shocking by basically finishing off as many people as he could - introducing too many new characters (this meant they were all under used..Angel, Psylock, multiple man etc) - thought the film could survive by just having big set pieces and filling in the gaps with pap (clearly an action director - but what made the first two stand out was that they had more too them that) - Had his favorite characters - this film should have been called "Wolverine The Movie..with a couple of other people in for good measure" - I felt the characters were used wrong, personally I think Wolverine was too nice in this film. It is almost like he was playing the Cyclops roll from the comic. You know geeky leader, the responsible one. - AND how much more emotional would it have been had Cyclops finished off Jean at the end??
On the plus side the scene with Jean in the house and everyone getting in was superb, I almost cried when Xavier bit the dust (literally), any scene with Ian McKellen acting in and Beast was awesome and when Iceman goes all Iced up it was the biggest rush ever ... just wished it would have stayed on for longer - it could have been a better character arc. The kids coming of age. The sexual tension between the younger characters was a good idea, and then the potential of their mutant powers coming to fruit as they matured was an idea I think could have been touched on more !!
Oh and Colossus was underused !!
Im gonna watch again and I hope more will come out on DVD, it just felt rushed to me. I think it is a good entertaining film, I just agreee with the Empire Magazine review. That Ratner has not destroyed the film, but it definately misses Singers panache and touch.
If they do a forth one (which considering the epic amount of money it just made they probably will), I really think Singer HAS to come back. Or someone with a bit more to them. Perhaps Chris Nolan (Batman Begins) ... how awesome would that be??!!
Let me know what you guys think about what I have said.
Cheers
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Post by waltham on May 30, 2006 8:06:59 GMT -5
OH if you go to www.empireonline.com they are doing an awesome which characters should be in X4 if they make it. Some good ideas !!
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Post by *FroZen~AL* on May 30, 2006 8:46:31 GMT -5
Is it juz me or does anybody noticed the fight in the woods between Logan and Spike? After Wolverine killed Spike, he had Spike's bones in his own abs and he removed them and the wounds healed, u could see the holes in his white singlet...
And then after which he went after and approached Jean only to be confronted by Magneto - then i saw Wolverine's singlet has no holes at the stomach area - WOW, i didn't know his singlet has HEALING factor too, otherwise, i believe that is a grave continuity ERROR! LMAO! ;D
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