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Post by DarkPhoenixKid on May 26, 2006 22:53:38 GMT -5
yeah,how could they do that,but then again,judging on the past wo movies,they would be more happy because he was portrayed as a grouch and was controlled for X2,and only had emotional/friendly scenes with Jean,no one else so he kinda becomes that kid in the back of class that is ther,you know his name but no one talks to him for some odd reason so if he's gone,no one would notice.Scott was more of a bother than a leader,in x1, he cause the MOST damage by accident,Same in X2, Jean wouldn't have died if it wasnt for him
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Post by RiSeN To DeCeAsEd on May 26, 2006 22:58:04 GMT -5
yea, im jsut saying i hope to god ifthere is a future x-men movie that jean would be in it, i jsut dont htink she will:(
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Post by trixside on May 26, 2006 22:58:12 GMT -5
I was upset at how Scott had fewer things to say than, say, the president (who probably had more lines that Phoenix too, actually! o.O), but I'm letting it go. I think even with watching half of it through spoiler clips, reading bad reviews and wishing that so many things could've been different, there is no way I could NOT have enjoyed watching it. I cried a fair bit and I really wish half the cast hadn't died, but all in all I thought it was great.  To anyone who might be reading: GO SEE IT. You can't miss seeing this epic on the big screen! |
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Post by Downhere on May 26, 2006 23:09:23 GMT -5
yeah,how could they do that,but then again,judging on the past wo movies,they would be more happy because he was portrayed as a grouch and was controlled for X2,and only had emotional/friendly scenes with Jean,no one else so he kinda becomes that kid in the back of class that is ther,you know his name but no one talks to him for some odd reason so if he's gone,no one would notice.Scott was more of a bother than a leader,in x1, he cause the MOST damage by accident,Same in X2, Jean wouldn't have died if it wasnt for him I respect your opinion...but Jean's death in X2 was not because of Scott, it had nothing to do with Scott actually. And what damage did he cause by accident? The only thing I can think of was in X1 where Toad took his visor off and that wasn't his fault. |
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Post by comingdarkage on May 26, 2006 23:14:29 GMT -5
Hey everyone, I just signed up though I have been reading this forum for a while. Thanks to all who have made it very enjoyable. I just saw the film and like many others I have my problems with it; however, I would be the first to encourage you to see it for yourself to decide. I've read comics for years, including closely following X-men, so admittedly I am coming from the "fanboy" standpoint. For me the pros and cons were as follows
Pros
- Expanded role of Storm.
- Continued awesomeness of Hugh Jackson as Wolverine.
- Acting of all involved continues to be awesome.
- Great action sequences.
- Introduction of some great new mutants.
- The character of Jean/Phoenix in general, which I thought was well-handled.
Cons
- Short run time which could have been expanded to include more character and storyline development, and cut down on the fast pace that hurts the film in my opinion (for me this would have fixed 75% of my problem with the film).
- Diminished role of Cyclops
- Some silly dialoague.
- Deaths/Curing of several main characters (though in the end both the deaths and the cure are left in a very ambigious position).
I appreciated the attempt of Ratner to leave this film open to more sequels, but I think we all can agree that they should only do this if they give proper time to all involved to make a quality movie.
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Post by RiSeN To DeCeAsEd on May 26, 2006 23:18:51 GMT -5
I agree, and im kind of thinking not many people would want a sequel if they didnt find a way to bring back the dead ones (exempt Prof. X), and the cures will be taken cared of too from the Magneto/chess scene.
U know what would be funny though is if Rogue and Bobby were kissing when her powers come back! lol
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Post by trixside on May 26, 2006 23:33:27 GMT -5
That was EXACTLY what I was thinking! I still wish it hadn't been so Shakespearean in terms of Major Character Death (I was reading Othello while waiting for the movie to start, heh), although it didn't really drag down the movie as badly as I feared it could. Personally, I think they expanded Storm's role a little too much though... now I think it's great that she got to fly and use her powers a little bit more, but two things really irritated me: her clearing the fog at Alkali Lake (what was it she said, "I can take care of that"? A Storm-level superheroine doesn't SAY that, she just DOES IT (wow, more inadvertant X3-quoting!)), and her hurling herself to cry on Logan's shoulder when Prof X died. Don't get me wrong, I think she did well at the funeral, and I'd trust her to handle the school, but some of her actions were just screaming I'm jealous that Jean gets to do more than I do (but don't take me too seriously, my mind has written its own conspiracy theories by now  ). Who's dying to see it again?  |
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Post by DarkPhoenixKid on May 26, 2006 23:36:49 GMT -5
MEE! i'm seeing it again tomorrow,i am going to be soo broke by monday
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Post by Downhere on May 26, 2006 23:54:27 GMT -5
My Review of X-Men: The Last Stand Today was The Last Stand and I'm mixed about it. There were so many good points to this film but there were an equal number of bad points as well. Let's start with the Good: - Visually, this was a pretty film. There was nothing bland about it, it had a great style and the cinematography was top notch! The special effects were seamless and very well done. I was surprised the effects were so well done considering the fact that they had a very short post-production period. The opening scene of a younger Ian and Patrick was astonishing. The FX looked incredible in that scene and throughout we are treated to top notch effects. - The score for the film was brilliant. I totally enjoyed Powell's work here and I'd say it's on par with X1's score. While I did enjoy X2's score I didn't think it was the best by any means so Powell does a good job here and like I said is on par with X1's score. - The acting from the main characters was as good as the previous films with a few stand-outs. Ian and Patrick, yet again, steal every scene they are featured in. There is no denying that these two are masters of their craft! Kelsey Grammer was Beast! Period! He embodied who Beast is and he was one of the highlights of this film! Famke does darn good work here, she actually made me feel for her without saying a word. I liked the duality of her character and she really ran with it in the movie. Everyone else is great as usual...I was a bit let down that Ellen Paige hardly had any screen time. I wanted to see more of her... lol. She's so cute! - The action was top notch…but I wish there was more! Ratner cut things a bit too quickly for my taste. He has an eye for action and I wish he would have let some of the action scenes continue on a little longer. But the action makes up for the lack of action the previous films had. Now the Bad: - My biggest complaint comes in the form of runtime. This movie was just too short! When Magneto started moving the bridge I was like, dangit, we only have another 25 minutes left. The runtime and pacing hurts this film flat out! Like I said from the beginning about the runtime, the short runtime meant that the movie would move too fast and leave little room for the story to breathe and unfortunately I was right. This film would have benefited from another 20-30 minutes of footage. One thing Ratner forgot were the little things. The little moments that makes you smile. There was maybe 1 moment where you have that but other than that there is nothing else. The one moment I consider one of the little things was when Beast says "Oh my stars and garters." We needed other little moments like that. We needed more time to see the characters grieve for the ones they lost…which brings me to another complaint as big as the runtime… - Cyclops! I didn’t think I would be as mad as I was about how it was handled but let’s say that his death almost ruined this film for me. I’m sorry but his death was not needed. Instead of killing him off they could have put him in a coma till the end where he wakes up or did something else to show his absence. But ok, let’s say they needed to kill him off…then let those he knew mourn for him. It felt like the character’s just flat out didn’t care about Cyke. That really upset me. I mean, there is nothing in the form of grief shown from anyone other than Jean and that is short lived. They don’t even mention him at Xavier’s funeral. I mean, it just happened and they are holding a funeral/memorial for Xavier and Storm doesn’t mention one word about the one who is second in command after the Professor and just got obliterated on basically the same day. *Sighs* - Now we have the plot. Now don’t get me wrong I thought the plot of the film was interesting and added another element in the human/mutant struggle but it could have been handled better. Not only that but it seems they are copping out with the cure not being permanent. While it is good for us fans because our favorite mutants may retain their powers again it makes no sense plot wise…it makes it feel like the whole film we watched was all for nothing. - Phoenix saga. Famke did a phenomenal job on the film but they needed to add the firebird or fire in her eyes. I know it’s a small nitpick but I would have liked the firebird effect. Also, to put Wolvie in Cyke’s role kind of made me cringe. Now, it does seem that I didn’t enjoy the film but that is wrong. There were many moments of greatness in this film. But there were moments that I had problems with. With a little more polishing and time this could have been the best of the 3. The greatness comes through at times but because of the runtime and certain events it doesn’t shine through as much as it should. Part of me says this is an awesome movie and the other part says it was awesome but lacked certain things to make it great and the best of the 3. Either way I guess I give it an 7/10. Maybe a second viewing will help with the score…we will see. I’m going again tomorrow so I will see then. |
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Post by spike6414 on May 27, 2006 0:50:07 GMT -5
totally agree Downhere. Our expectations were not lived up to as it had such a short running time and too many plot holes. After viewing it for the third time though i have enjoyed it more as i feel like i dont have those expectations after all the build up. but i too would say 7 out of ten.
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Post by xmenatjozzle on May 27, 2006 1:01:31 GMT -5
Im new at this forum. Ihave been a fan of xmen from X1.
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Post by oldfriend on May 27, 2006 1:05:04 GMT -5
welcome aboard, perhaps you could introduce yourself at the Official newbie thread in the General Discussion section so everybody can get to know ya! Once again, welcome aboard, you'll love it here!
and downhere, nice honest review my friend! But you and I both must see it again!
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Post by Downhere on May 27, 2006 1:14:33 GMT -5
Oh don't worry Oldy, I will see it again...but I must say I don't think my problems with it will change...but the more positive elements may be enhanced with a second viewing.
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Post by spike6414 on May 27, 2006 1:23:32 GMT -5
the more you see it the less critical i have found i have become.
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Post by Downhere on May 27, 2006 1:25:50 GMT -5
I don't know...Cyke's death was just...*sigh* And for those who say it was off screen and all well let me say this. When Phoenix used her powers she obliterated everything in her way...how can scott survive if in all the other scenes, anyone in close proximity got obliterated? I mean, he's gone and that is just so wrong. Then no one even really cared...*sighs* I don't think I will get over that for sure.
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Post by spike6414 on May 27, 2006 1:34:21 GMT -5
i agree but i am just clinging to hope that it did not happen, even thoough i know it did happen, there might be a small glimpse of hope.I am just in denial thats all.
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Post by Downhere on May 27, 2006 1:43:47 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing Spike, but seriously, if they bring back either Cyke or Jean now it's going to be really weird plot wise. Who knows...I mean, if they could make it work that Cyke comes back but I think it will come off as cheesy...*sighs*
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Post by spike6414 on May 27, 2006 2:01:13 GMT -5
I know and i do agree it would be cheesy but the whole story line is not making much sense with the cure not really working. I will just continue my denial about cyclops it is sad to see such great characters leave the x men series.
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Post by Downhere on May 27, 2006 2:04:40 GMT -5
Believe me Spike, I totally agree. When the scene came and went and no one even showed emotion for him besides the short lived moment for Jean...I was like...Why!?!
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Post by spike6414 on May 27, 2006 2:32:58 GMT -5
i know it sucked but that is what happens when you have a huge story to tell and only a small amount of time to do it in.Action stays and emotion leaves.
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