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Post by Downhere on Feb 24, 2007 12:07:02 GMT -5
I do know that X3 sold 5 million copies in its first week out. It continued to do well throughout the holiday season but I will have to look at exact numbers up till this point. DVD sales are hard to find but I can do some digging. I know that around Feb-March of 2004, I saw an official list of the top 10 dvd's of 2003 and X2, while selling quite a bit had only sold a little over 5 million copies throughout the holidays and a bit into January. So X3 exceeded X2 in that aspect, at a greater pace to boot.
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Post by Upthere on Feb 24, 2007 12:10:08 GMT -5
how many did Pirates 2 sell?
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Post by Downhere on Feb 24, 2007 12:17:02 GMT -5
It's not worth comparing Pirates 2 to X3 considering it made like 600 million more worldwide, but I believe POTC 2 sold 5 million copies on its first day and 10.5 million dvd's in it's first week. Surprisingly, that fell short of the first film which sold 11 million copies it's first week it seems. Ahh, I did find something from X3's debut on dvd: "Industry sources peg combined consumer spending on the titles to be more than $80 million, making Tuesday the biggest fourth-quarter opening day in the history of home video. Industry sources put first-day sales of Fox's "X-Men" at 2.6 million units and Disney's "Mermaid" at 1.6 million units. Those figures include sales to rental dealers. "X-Men" is the biggest October DVD debut ever, and "Mermaid" is the biggest animated DVD debut for October." www.themovieblog.com/archives/2006/10/xmen_3_biggest_october_dvd_release_of_all_time.html
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Post by Upthere on Feb 26, 2007 19:40:55 GMT -5
The horrible legs of this franchise just prove that there really is no demand from the general public to see the films. Basically, the hardcore fanboy comic people all rush at once to see it opening weekend. Unlike, X-Men, Spider-Man has the demand of the general public.
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Post by Downhere on Feb 27, 2007 15:17:53 GMT -5
The horrible legs of this franchise just prove that there really is no demand from the general public to see the films. Basically, the hardcore fanboy comic people all rush at once to see it opening weekend. Unlike, X-Men, Spider-Man has the demand of the general public. I think that's false thinking. In order for a film to go past 200 million domestically and Internationally alike, the film has to have a huge demand. The 200+ million mark is not an easy task to reach.
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Post by Upthere on Feb 27, 2007 16:42:16 GMT -5
Well, most of the people who rush to see it opening weekend are the big fans, but after the first weekend, the legs tell the story of the general people who are not that into it.
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Post by Downhere on Feb 27, 2007 16:46:01 GMT -5
I don't think the words "not that into it" really apply here. Many of the general public are into the X-Men films, just like many are into The Mummy films and any other film that has made more than 200 million. Anything that reaches 200 million is a blockbuster, a huge deal. I think what is happening is people are seeing other films going over 300 million and think every film they love should do the same, but that just doesn't happen.
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Post by xfan6 on Feb 28, 2007 15:08:46 GMT -5
Well, most of the people who rush to see it opening weekend are the big fans, but after the first weekend, the legs tell the story of the general people who are not that into it. yeah buddy no offense but i think u've got it pretty wrong... a 100 million opening weekend alone shows that it's more than just hardcore comic geeks. And i know LOTS of people that aren't comic fans AT ALL that went to see x3, opening weekend or not. I mean even if xmen had a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE hardcare comic geeks only fanbase but nobody else, i'd say there's no way it could break 130 million.
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Post by Upthere on Feb 28, 2007 16:49:10 GMT -5
Sorry, I was making my point with X-Men and Spider-Man and how Spider-Man has a great demand in the public. X-2 did great but definately SM2's 370million take blows away X2s 215 take, yet X-3's first day take was able to break SM's opening day record and for that matter get the highest opening day behind SW at that time, not bad at all from a movie whos last sequel made just 215 million. I am not making light of the X-men movies but emphasizing that theres a bigger demand for SM where the series itself has not really shown any frontloadedness unlike the X-men movies have shown in the past. Don't believe me? look at the multipliers for the SM movies vs X-men
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Post by DarkPhoenixKid on Mar 16, 2007 21:19:06 GMT -5
It's impossible to compare Spiderman to X-Men,spiderman alone as a much muc larger fanbase,also,its way less complicated,x-men is,and most children won't understand it. Spiderman is a generally family oriented film,its simple,man bit by spider,becomes super. As to where in x-men theres alot of talk of DNA,genetics,power differences,moral beliefs,past history, and many storylines,so spiderman is easy,thats why people like it more. People don't have to think when they're watching spiderman,and yet they still have great storylines that are practically flawless,where as we all know what happened to x-men.
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Post by Downhere on Mar 17, 2007 8:29:53 GMT -5
It's impossible to compare Spiderman to X-Men,spiderman alone as a much muc larger fanbase,also,its way less complicated,x-men is,and most children won't understand it. Spiderman is a generally family oriented film,its simple,man bit by spider,becomes super. As to where in x-men theres alot of talk of DNA,genetics,power differences,moral beliefs,past history, and many storylines,so spiderman is easy,thats why people like it more. People don't have to think when they're watching spiderman,and yet they still have great storylines that are practically flawless,where as we all know what happened to x-men. Well said DPK!
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Post by perfectstormx on Mar 17, 2007 10:38:49 GMT -5
It's impossible to compare Spiderman to X-Men,spiderman alone as a much muc larger fanbase,also,its way less complicated,x-men is,and most children won't understand it. Spiderman is a generally family oriented film,its simple,man bit by spider,becomes super. As to where in x-men theres alot of talk of DNA,genetics,power differences,moral beliefs,past history, and many storylines,so spiderman is easy,thats why people like it more. People don't have to think when they're watching spiderman,and yet they still have great storylines that are practically flawless,where as we all know what happened to x-men. nicely done jedi.
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Post by DarkPhoenixKid on Mar 18, 2007 23:09:43 GMT -5
Thanks
Afterall,its true,as a child when i first saw X1,i was like"whaaaa" because it was way to complicated to fully understand the story,don't even get me started on TAS,as i child i didn't understand the whole Phoenix bit and different times and dimensions,it was much to complex. Most movie goers are parents with their children,so naturally,spiderman is the best choice,because it's simpler. And makin 400+million for a movie that got mostly bad reviews is an amazing step. Besides,there are only about 2-3 movies that have a 100 million dollar US opening weekend, it beat all odds against it. And you say that most people that saw the movie were hardcore fans,i think not,i'm not an hardcore x-men fan,i'm an on and off fan,i just like the movies,and i saw it,my friends saw it opening day and loved it,and they are by no means fans of x-men. It's an action flick with cool effects,thats why people saw it. Afterall,who were the ones complaining about the movie,hardcore fans."Why no fire,why cure rogue,why kill jean,why kill cyke,why such bad directing,why fox screwed the series,it's not like the comics,why no cosmic being",that's what you'll hear if you take alot of hardcore ans and stuff them into one room with the DVD on.
Spiderman movies please both movie goers and comicbook fans, x-men pleases somewhat both,but the last stand only pleased movie goers.
Also spiderman has a storyline most people will understand,he's trying to get the girl of his dreams, keep his best friend and stop the maniacs running amock through the city. X-men,well, mutant supreriority,government politics and laws, secret experiments,split personalities, revival of dead characters,and such. X-Men is complex because it has more than one main character ,all with different issues in their lives that make it hard to keep track of,Spiderman has three,with all 3 main character's(pete,harry,mj) stories intertwined,they balance eachother out.
Sorry for my long rant,lol
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